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Criminal Justice Matters Podcast: Kate Bex KC & Simon Spence KC interview Karl Turner MP  

February 8, 2026

In the latest episode of the Criminal Justice Matters podcast, hosts Kate Bex KC and Simon Spence KC are joined by Karl Turner MP, former Shadow Attorney General and long‑standing advocate for the right to trial by jury.

Karl Turner, who was once a practising criminal barrister himself, has led cross‑party efforts in Parliament to protect the right to jury trial. In this episode, he sets out his opposition to the Government’s proposals to limit the right to jury trial — reforms that would affect around half of Crown Court cases.

His principled stance has placed him at odds with colleagues and long‑time friends across the political spectrum.

The discussion also explores the wider need for investment across the criminal justice system and highlights the structural inefficiencies driving delays and backlogs throughout England and Wales.

Listen to the podcast HERE

Kate Bex KC

Simon Spence KC

The Criminal Justice Matters Podcast is produced by Adam Batstone for the Criminal Bar Association of England & Wales.